FE C6 (Corporate) TO 58/60 MEL

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FE C6 (Corporate) TO 58/60 MEL

Post by KULTULZ » Tue 7. Apr 2009, 06:46

Below is an excerpt from another board (SQUAREBIRDS) discussing the upgrade of a T-BIRD FE specific COM (MERC-O-MATIC Multi-Drive (MX) in this instance) to a C6.

This same detail will work on the 58/60 MEL block as both have the same bell pattern. In 1961, when the 430 went LINC specific, the MEL bell pattern was modified to allow the engine to fit easier in the new LINC chassis confines. When LINC went to the 462 in 1966, the bell pattern was again modified to accept the new LINC specific C6, that being the bell pattern was again altered to accept the earlier TWIN-TURBO (HX) and/or LINC bell specific C6. This new pattern was also a partial 429/460 pattern.

The above underlined statement is incorrect.

The 66/68 462 bell pattern was actually a dual pattern, one the earlier 61-65 LINC SPECIFIC HX and the other the new LINC SPECIFIC C6. The 385 SERIES PATTERN was not introduced until the release of the 429/460 in the 1968 model run.

I was cruising through, read this and thought it should be corrected so as not to cause further confusion
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462 Bell Pattern
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I would add that only a C6 from an FE engine (360, 390, 410, 428) will fit. These were made from 1966 to 1976. Driveshaft will fit if you get a C6 the same length (they come in 4 flavors!).

The flywheel does need to be a 65-76 unit as the tooth count is different and you can't use your old starter.

As far as that goes, you can use the later flywheel and starter with the COM trans if you ever want to. makes getting the starter in and out very easy and the later starters are much better!


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The car in question was a SQUAREBIRD (58-60 TBIRD) 352 but Hawkrod points out the interchageabilty of the FE flywheel/flexplate and that will allow one to rid himself of that heavy origional starter motor. In fact, one should be able to use a gear reduction FE starter motor. If you want to retain the early style starter, you would simply use an early FE flexplate
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Re: FE C6 (Corporate) TO 58/60 MEL

Post by Theo » Wed 10. Feb 2010, 05:17

I dublicated this post of Kultulz. It's good to have it in this section too.
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Re: FE C6 (Corporate) TO 58/60 MEL

Post by KULTULZ » Sun 1. Aug 2010, 08:51

KULTULZ wrote:
Below is an excerpt from another discussion board (SQUAREBIRDS) discussing the upgrade of a T-BIRD FE specific COM (MERC-O-MATIC Multi-Drive (MX) in this instance) to a C6.

This same detail will work on the 58/60 MEL block as both have the same bell pattern. In 1961, when the 430 went LINC specific, the MEL bell pattern was modified to allow the engine to fit easier in the new LINC chassis confines. When LINC went to the 462 in 1966, the bell pattern was again modified to accept the new LINC specific C6, that being the bell pattern was again altered to accept the earlier TWIN-TURBO (HX) and/or LINC bell specific C6.

This new pattern was also a partial 429/460 pattern.
NOTICE- The above underlined statement is incorrect. The 61-65 LINC 430 bell pattern was unique into itself. There is no OEM interchange other than the late (61/65) HX (BENDTSENS supposedly offers an adapter). The 66/68 462 had a dual bell pattern, one being the previous 61/65 LINC 430 and a new additional pattern to accept the new LINC SPECIFIC C6.

The later 460 block (68/ ) had the new 385 SERIES bell pattern along with the previous LINC SPECIFIC C6.

There was a reason for this. The new 1968 460 was fitted in the CONT where chassis design demanded the LINC SPECIFIC C6 and also fitted into the new MARK CHASSIS where the CORPORATE 385 SERIES bell pattern could be used.
462 Bell Pattern_1.jpg
Hawkrod wrote:
I would add that only a C6 from an FE engine (360, 390, 410, 428) will fit. These were made from 1966 to 1976. Driveshaft will fit if you get a C6 the same length (they come in 4 flavors!).

The flywheel does need to be a 65-76 unit as the tooth count is different and you can't use your old starter.

As far as that goes, you can use the later flywheel and starter with the COM trans if you ever want to. makes getting the starter in and out very easy and the later starters are much better!


Hawkrod
The car in question was a SQUAREBIRD (58-60 TBIRD) 352 but Hawkrod points out the interchageabilty of the FE flywheel/flexplate and that will allow one to rid himself of that heavy origional starter motor. In fact, one should be able to use a gear reduction FE starter motor. If you want to retain the early style starter, you would simply use an early FE flex-plate.

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