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Super Marauder intake on a 462

September 14 2008 at 3:50 PM
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  (Login Buddy67Lincoln)
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Will the super marauder work on the 462 without having to swap heads??? I think in the past I read that you might want to get the 430 heads to make it work on a 462 but cannot find the article. Thanks a lot.

 
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(Login jeffhamman)
70.189.123.60

super marauder will fit

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September 15 2008, 4:56 PM 

Hi John this is Jeff with the intake for sale. I had a 59 thunderbird that used a 430, I purchaced a 462 and c6 from a 67 lincoln to put into the bird,this was about 20 years ago. I snagged this intake the minuite I saw it from a swap meet.the only thing I new about the supermaruader package was sketchty. I have some factory info as well as the sept 58 motor trend that shows a road test... I held onto it after selling the car because I now how rare it is, unfortunate it did not have any other stuff with it. I tried to duplicate its look by using early 2300s. yes this will also fit the 462 although the 462 ports are not as tall they are close I asked about this around the time I bought this. glad to see interest. I feel it could serve someone who will use it now and I could use the cash. I can send pics to you just send me a message so I can post them. I cannot get the photobucket thing to work. Jeff

 
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(Login werbyford)
24.4.20.184

Jeff can you take a couple measurements on that intake?

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September 18 2008, 3:35 PM 

I am trying to run some numbers on John's car with the 3x2v intake, if you have the intake handy could you try to measure the following?

* Port size, height x width

* "A" and "B" height of the intake:
(Edelbrock defines "A" and "B" this way too)
Lay a straightedge across the carb mounting flange (if they're in the same plane you can do all 3 at once)

Measure the distance down at the front from the straightedge to the intake surface that mates to the block. That's "A"

Measure the distance down at the rear from the straightedge to the intake surface that mates to the block. That's "B"

Also if you can:
Measure the distance down from each carb base to the "floor" of the intake (it will be different for each of the 6 barrels in this case)

That would help run the numbers. John's car would look (and run) totally cool with this intake, I'm just trying to be as accurate as I can with the numbers!

 
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(Login Buddy67Lincoln)
71.60.103.176

Re: Jeff can you take a couple measurements on that intake?

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September 18 2008, 5:44 PM 

Hey Werby! Thanks for all the fun facts and numbers you are running. It takes a lot of heart for those MELs to do that for anyone that wants it. I may have to wait till I get the intake in about 2 weeks. Money needs to clear before he can ship it and the its coming from way far far away! I will do those measurements for you the second I stop drolling all over it. I did have him measure from the base of one of the ports from and back to the top of the Ford 427 air cleaner that was custom fit for the 2800 carbs and it will fit under the hood with about a 1/2 inch to spare. In the mean time I though about it not fitting and just leaving the hood off till I fabbed up a nice suttle raised hood...that might look sweet too huh?! Hoodless continental with trips popping out of the horizon! Maybe with those individual air cleaners you see on nostalgic rods. Sorry..anyways, I will have to do that for you as soon as they come in probably second week in October at the latest. Thats my birthday too! Thanks again Werby and thats a sweet Gonkulator you have there! We will have to keep in touch once I get it built and run it a time or 12! Then I will have another 462 from the parts car I have and I want to build that up some using the 460 intake adapters and possibly dual quads! Take care and if anyone has those measurements by chance...send em in! Thanks

 
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(Login Buddy67Lincoln)
67.186.59.31

Intake is here!

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October 8 2008, 5:45 PM 

Werby, thanks for taking the time to help my get some performance numbers. Well..its here! The intake and carbs have arrived today the second I got home from work! I will take measurements for you tonight. Lets see what that MEL can do! Talk to you soon.

 
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(Login Buddy67Lincoln)
67.186.59.31

Re: Jeff can you take a couple measurements on that intake?

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October 8 2008, 8:02 PM 

Here is what I got with what I could understand about measuring the intake. A and B like I said are hard to determine on an intake with a valley pan so I measured to bottom edge of the nearest port that goes into the head. (sure its probably not what you need but I cannot figure out how to do this with a valley pan intake) I used a ruler with 64th of an inch increments so I hope that helped. I know these need reduced in some cases but I did not have the time. Hope you wanted them in inches.

A - 4" front of intake
B - 4 59/64" rear of intake

Carb flange to base of intake: Carb # then Left side and Right side measurements
Carb 1 (front carb) 1 46/64" left and 3 8/64" right
Carb 2 (mdl. carb) 1 45/64" left and 3 6/64 right
Carb 3 (rear carb) 1 45/64 left and 3 4/64 right

Port size:
1 1/8" X 2 39/64"

 
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(Login werbyford)
24.4.20.184

Fantastic data!

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October 9 2008, 7:22 AM 

John, thanks for measuring that, we take this kind of data for granted on the more common engines (289, 427, etc) but it is so rare to see real numbers on the MEL.

If your engine is apart, or if you have spares, can you measure those 462 intake ports? (widthxheight)

How much of a step is there at the top, from the intake manifold into the head?
At the bottom?
(In other words, is the port centerline the same or is the 462 centerline lower?)

The 429 vs 429scj is like this - the 429scj intake will bolt on and seal, but there is a mismatch - the intake port is bigger so the air rams right into a cast iron wall. It still works, because the 429scj intake is so much better, the mismatch doesn't hurt that much. But a mismatch (in the wrong direction) is just one more unknown.

I have the old 430 intake port down as 2.82" x 1.31", maybe if you or somebody knows the late 430 / 462 intake port dims they can post? (Exhaust dims too just to be sure!)

Thanks again and see below for my current calculations, the 6v should work even better on there if everything lines up and it's well tuned.

 
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